Rostum Roy’s Work With Kanzius Effect

Rostum Roy’s Work With Kanzius Effect

Rostum Roy J Rao And J. Kanzuius have published a paper jointly entitled “Observations of polarised RF radiation catalysis of dissociation of H2O–NaCl
solutions” on the Kanzuius effect in Materials Research Innovations, Volume 12, Number 1, March 2008 , pp. 3-6(4). (You’ll have to do a search at the links provided to pull up the pdf) This work basically confirms the information posted last year here and here. Note how the size of the flame varies with the concentration of NaCl. From the article

Figure 1 shows a very simple view of the variation of the flame size with the concentration of the solution. At 3% (about sea water concentration) the results presented in the YouTube video are essentially confirmed. Larger flame sizes of about 4–5 inches are noted with higher concentrations of NaCl. Immediately after the RF power is turned ‘ON’, the flammable gas can be ignited.
The flame shuts ‘OFF’ instantly as soon as the RF power is shut off. In the experiments to determine the effect of concentration, the authors were able to show
that even 1 wt-%NaCl sustains a small flame continuously. Also used were concentrations close to saturation with NaCl that produce somewhat larger flames as can be seen in Fig. 1. A solid sustainable flame is obtained at all percentages of NaCl.1%.

Rudimentary attempts were made to measure the temperature of the flame – they agree with more detailed measurements
made by Dr Curley at M.D. Anderson, which place it at y1800uC.39

Conclusions It has been confirmed that polarised RF frequency radiation at 13.56 MHz causes NaCl solutions in water,
with concentrations from 1 to over 30%, to be measurably changed in structure, and to dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen near room temperature. The flame
is a burning reaction, probably of an intimate mixture of hydrogen oxygen and the ambient air. Most of the Na present in the solution, concentrates progressively – as
measured – as the water is dissociated and burned.

No claim has been made that the process nets energy. However, thing of interest here is that flame produced increases with the concentration of the NaCl. And further the higher the concentration of NaCl the higher the flame.

As mentioned in this blog on forward osmosis put out the WaterReuse Foundation–one special use for the Kanzius effect would be to flare off the water from concentrated brine after forward–or reverse–osmosis…while providing and additional source of power to net lower the energy cost.

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5 Comments on “Rostum Roy’s Work With Kanzius Effect”

  1. […] Rostum Roy’s Work With Kanzius EffectAs mentioned in this blog on forward osmosis put out the WaterReuse Foundation–one special use for the Kanzius effect would be to flare off the water from concentrated brine after forward–or reverse–osmosis…while providing and …Desalination Research And Development – […]

  2. Mike Wofsey Says:

    The effect is interesting. I’m willing to wager that it will be nearly useless for turning brine into solid salt because I suspect the energy required will be magnificently large compared to standard evaporation. In the latter’s case, you’re able to harness the latent heat of fusion of the NaCl to reduce the overall energy required. In the former’s case, you need to put enough energy into the brine to first start activate the NaCl, and then continue to add enough to raise the energy of the water past its heat of vaporization. All in all, it seems like putting an V8 engine onto a bicycle … you’re going to be fighting the power of the engine like mad while coming nowhere close to the native efficiency.

  3. nick2 Says:

    The test above suggests that higher concentrations of Na & Cl result in hotter flames. The point of doing this process is to harvest the hydrogen to create more energy. I believe that electrolysis is something like 72% efficient. I’ll bet this process is much more efficient than electrolysis. Even without being net energy positive this process might collapse the cost of energy sufficiently to make it practical. So maybe you can recover 80-90% of the energy for reuse so the net expenditure of energy is only 10-20% of the original output. That might not be enough. I don’t know what the number is though. But I’ll bet this process will tune to higher efficiencies.

  4. Ed Says:

    What happened to this? Nice series on the topic of the RF disassociation, did you ever follow up with any of those researchers what they were doing with it? Ed.

  5. Charles Says:

    I looked for follow up on the R&D for years but nothing came of it. However, the technique of bombarding atoms with radio waves tuned to the magnetic resonance of the molecule has been used in fusion research.

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